Michael Poxon quoted: >> >> Tangentially, how does your J-less conlang transliterate the "J" sound in >> "Jim" and "John"? I've done so by substituting "Z" [dz] for it in Cl. Ar. >> Kash: those would be "cim" [tSim] and "can" [tSan], but their /c/ can be semi-voiced. Of course any Kash resident on Earth will have learned proper English (they have ways....). Gwr: closer, but [dZiN], [dZaN], probably mid-tone; but if some (semi-)obscene or insulting homophone has a different tone, that could be used (maybe not in direct address, if Jim and John are fluent in Gwr). There are probably related languages that retain /-m/. Prevli: could pronounce [dZIm, dZan] but [dZ] is not a phoneme, it derives from obs. agentive gi+(h)V- and is rare.