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On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 02:01:20PM +0000, Lou Burnard wrote:
> Řyvind Eide wrote:
> >On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 09:50:20PM +0000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
> >  
> >>Lou Burnard wrote:
> >>    
> >>>Note that you can use the @type attribute on <rs> to indicate that the 
> >>>referring string in question refers to a place (rather than, say, a 
> >>>person)
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>bizarrely, we might say that <placeName>London</placeName>
> >>is syntactic sugar for <name type="place">London</name>
> >>which in turn is syntactic sugar for <rs type="name" 
> >>subtype="place">London</rs>. So  I am not 100% sure that
> >>the argument follows.
> >>    
> >
> >Not that way, but what about <rs type="place">that place</rs>? Not a
> >name, but referring to a place.
> >
> >  
> This is sort of why I think the @type attribute is a dangerous weapon.
> On the one hand, Sebastian is right that
> 
> <rs type="name"> + sugar = <name>
> and
> <name type="place"> + sugar = <placeName> 
> so we ought to say
> <rs type="name" subtype="place"> + sugar = <placeName> 
> for <rs>s which actually contain a placename
> 
> but for ones which don't, it seems much more useful to say
> <rs type="/type of entity referred to/"> as Oyvind suggests than to do 
> what @type ought to mean, namely
> <rs type="/type of reference/"> (with values such as "short", 
> "elliptical", "periphrastic", "cataphoric" etc.)
> 
> This is an old argument (which I lost last time we had it) ... since we 
> do now permit <name type="/type of thing named/">  it seems only logical 
> to extend the confusion to rs as well.

It is indeed confused. Should we live with the confusion or not?

If you want to express an rs referring to something like e.g. a
statue, I would presume the only way to do it today is using something
like:

<rs type="statue">The statue by the door</rs>

But one may possible make something like:

<object type="statue" id="Ts12345"/>
...
<rs key="Ts12345">The statue by the door</rs>

given a general object element.


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