Thanks, Laurent & Lou. I prefer to be consistent, so I'm going to go for keeping biblScope outside of imprint. My reasoning is that the definition of imprint (as a word, not necessarily in the TEI sense) is the bibliographic information about a publisher and the facts of publication. The page numbers or even volume information is not the same type of information.

I'm open to persuasion, of course!

Elizabeth "Lisa" McAulay
Librarian for Digital Collection Development
UCLA Digital Library Program
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Subject: Re: biblScope should be in Imprint or not? (biblStruct)

In fact, I fully agree with your argument, but I had understood that 
both examples in the initial post where of the first type. The first 
one is a paper in a journal, the second one a chapter in an edited 
book. So Lisa, keep bith views in mind!

Le 5 févr. 09 à 15:15, Lou Burnard a écrit :

> With some trepidation, I venture to disagree slightly with the 
> Council Chairman on this topic.
> My view is that a full bibliographic description should  include 
> biblScope inside the imprint when the work being described is only a 
> part of some other work for example, if the biblStruct title might 
> be something like "Artichoke - Axolotl (Encylopaedia Vegetiana vol 
> 3)". When, by contrast, the work being described is the whole thing, 
> and we just want to reference a part of it in the description, then 
> the biblScope belongs as a sibling of the imprint, rather than its 
> child. The latter seems to me the more usual case -- e.g. where we 
> cite an analytic title.
> But maybe I am dissecting angels on a pin. Or something. Speak up 
> librarians!
> Laurent Romary wrote:
>> In both cases, I would put the page information in the <imprint>,. 
>> =20
>> First to maintain some consistency accross the encoding, but also 
>> to =20
>> keep to the meaning of <imprint> (cf. =
>> CO.html#COBICOI)=20
>> : that should contain: "the specific location of the material being 
>> =20
>> cited within its containing publication".
>> Best,
>> Laurent