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> From: R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
> Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > Is the onset of , for Anglophones who "pronounce the [t]",
> > actually [t_s], or is it simply [ts]?
> 
> Mine is [t_s] - the instances I've heard sound like an affricate rather than a 
> cluster. certainly in Japanese - and that's the language that began this 
> particular thread - it's [t_s] (and phonemically /t/).

For me, it appears to be [ts]. It certainly sounds to me like I usually resegment /tonkatu/ to [toN$kat$su] rather than [toN$ka$t_su] (or is it [toN$ka_0$t_su] in Japanese? My memory on devoiced vowels is rusty), although I'm not sure if that's definitive evidence for word-initial.

-- Paul