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--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Tristan McLeay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

...
 
> If you prefer a more phonetic analysis you'll notice that
> when someone 
> says [ts] in English the duration of the [t] and [s] are
> comparable to 
> the duration of a normal /t/ and a normal /s/ (the [t] is
> released, and 
> then the frication for [s] begins; the aspiration
> associated with a 
> stop in English comes after the /t/ but before the /s/,
> assuming 
> aspiration in this context). 

AHA! Now I'm beginning to get it. I think I should take the time to learn a little bit about phonetics. That might even moderate my (generally) hostile attitude toward the subject. ;-)

--gary