Selon Garth Wallace : > > In Japanese it really is [toN.ka.ts)u]. Actually, if you want to be really correct phonetically, it's [toN.ka.t_sM_0] (/u/ is unrounded, and normally unvoiced at the end of a word after an unvoiced consonant). Actually, the last vowel in such a word is so voiceless that to untrained ears it sometimes sounds as if it's absent. > > BTW, devoicing only happens to /i/ and /u/, so you were right the first time. Correct, and often with the devoicing those vowels become so dark they nearly disappear (the most common cases are the polite copula "desu" /de.sM/ and the polite suffix "masu" /ma.sM/, which in normal speech often sound more like [de.s=] and [ma.s=] :) ). -- Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets. http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com http://www.christophoronomicon.nl You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.