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Dear all,

Please find attached a first very humble encoding and its documentation. I copy-pasted the code at the end of this email too.

 Few lines of context: this is a test code based on few entries of the Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology (19th century) written by W. Smith and available in PDF in Google books. These entries give biographical features about characters of Antiquity. I am working on it at the Perseus Project for several matters: family relationships and events / basic entities in Thucydides.

This present encoding is about the family relationship in Roman antiquity and follows the biographical datas given by the entries. The relationships expressed are: gens-branch, union, generational. In order to keep the encoding as light as possible for the moment, I reduced the information: some functions, date of birth and death are missing.

The famous P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus and few of his relatives are chosen as examples. They have got more or less the same name. Almost all these people are P. or L. or Cn. Cornelius Scipio or Cornelia. They are distinguished in the Antiquity thanks to different praenomen, number or nicknames. In the informative systems, IDs are used.

I sent the <partDesc> only. It presents a list of groups of families (GENS), branches of these gens, person, relationships among all these categories.

I tried to document as much as I could the code thanks to the comments inside the xml code (files attached). However, I've got also a table taht I could wend to whom could be interested in it. This documentation is voluntarily *very redundant*. I may still have forgotten some information or some relationships. Automatic information retrieval would be part of the project, but not at this point of the work.

 I'd like to have interaction and feed back. All kinds of advice, critical comments, correction are very welcome.

One of my question is: if an RDF level were included in the global computational system, wouldn't it be redundant to keep the relational tags in an xml file?

I cannot find any link online right now to validate the file (does anybody know one, please?). Consequently, the doctype declaration gives the path that is on my computer. 

Thank you for your attention,

Best,

Marion Lamé
Doctorante
Università di Bologna, Dipartimento di Storia Antica, +39 051 209 8387

Université de Provence (Aix-Marseille 1).
Carnet de recherche «Épigraphie en réseau»:
http://eer.hypotheses.org/ (plateforme «Hypothèse» du CLEO, CNRS, Marseille)
Page web du Centre Camille Julllian
http://sites.univ-provence.fr/ccj/spip.php?article65  
Page web sur Digital Clacissist
CODE:

    <teiHeader>
        <fileDesc>
            <titleStmt>
                <title>P.Cornelius Scipione Africanus</title>
            </titleStmt>
            <publicationStmt>
                <date>2009</date>
            </publicationStmt>
            <sourceDesc><bibl>Perseus</bibl></sourceDesc>
        </fileDesc>
        
        <profileDesc>
            <particDesc>
                
                <!-- SETS -->
                                     
                <org n="cornelia-gens-bio-1" type="GENS"><!-- Not sure to keep this @type nor its values as cathegories inside the encoding.-->        
                    <orgName>
                        CORNELIA GENS
                    </orgName>
                </org>
                
                <org n="gracchus-bio-1" type="GENS"><!-- Not sure to keep this @type nor its values as cathegories inside the encoding. -->
                    <orgName>
                        GRACCHUS GENS
                    </orgName>
                </org>
                
                <org n="aemilia-gens-bio-1" type="GENS"><!-- Not sure to keep this @type nor its values as cathegories inside the encoding. -->
                    <orgName>
                        AEMILIA GENS
                    </orgName>
                </org>
                
                <org n="scipio-bio-1" type="BRANCH"><!-- Not sure to keep this @type nor its values as cathegories inside the encoding. -->
                    <orgName type="COGNOMEN">
                        SCIPIO
                    </orgName> <!-- Not sure to keep this @type nor its cathegories  (tria nomina + agnomen)-->
                </org>
                
                <org n="paullus-bio-1" type="BRANCH">
                    <orgName type="COGNOMEN">
                        PAULLUS BRANCH
                    </orgName>
                </org>
                
                <!-- INDIVIDUALS MEMBER OF THE SETS "GENS" and "BRANCH"-->
                <listPerson type="historical"><!-- VS: type="mythical"? Not sure to keep this @type nor its cathegories: Quid when an historical character is involved in a mythical relationsip? -->
                    
                   
                    <person n="scipio-bio-10"><!-- n. 08-->
                        <persName>
P. Cornelius Scipio
                        </persName>
                        <sex>m</sex>
     <state when="-218"><label>cos</label></state>
                    </person>
              
                    <person n="scipio-bio-13"><!-- n. 12 -->
                        <persName>
P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus the Elder
                        </persName>
                        <sex>m</sex>
                        <state when="-205"><label>cos</label></state>
                        <state when="-194"><label>cos</label></state>
                     </person>

                    
                    <person n="scipio-bio-14"><!-- n. 13, brother of P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus n. 14 -->
                        <persName>
L. Cornelius Scipio Asiaticus                             
                        </persName>
                        <sex>m</sex>
<state when="-190"><label>cos</label></state>
                    </person>

<person n="scipio-bio-15"><!-- n. 14, elder son of P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus -->
                        <persName>
P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus
                        </persName>
                        <sex>m</sex>
                    </person>
                    
                    <person n="scipio-bio-16"><!-- n. 15, young son of P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus n. 13 -->
                        <persName>
L. or Cn. Cornelius Scipio 
                        </persName>
                        <sex>m</sex>
<state when="-174"><label>praetore</label></state>
                    </person>
                    
                    <person n="aemilia-bio-2"><!-- n. 2, wife of P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus n. 13 -->
                        <persName>
Aemilia Paulla
                        </persName>
                        <sex>f</sex>
                    </person>
                                   
                    <person n="cornelia-bio-4"><!-- n. 4 -->
                        <persName>
Cornelia Major
                        </persName>
                        <sex>f</sex>
                    </person>


                    <person n="cornelia-bio-5"><!--n. 5 = scipio-bio-18 n. 17-->
                        <persName>
Cornelia Africana                            
                        </persName>
                        <sex>f</sex>
                  
 </person>

 <person n="u1"><!--u+number: unknown. Stands for Pomponia, mother of Scipio Africanus, not mentioned explicitly with her name in this entry-->
<persName>
unknown1
</persName>
<sex>f</sex>
                   </person>                  

                    <person n="scipio-bio-24"><!-- n. 23, husband of Cornelia Major -->
                        <persName>
P. Cornelius Scipio Nasica Corculum
                        </persName>
                        <sex>m</sex>
<state when="-162"><label>cos</label></state>
<state when="-155"><label>cos</label></state>
                    </person>
                    
                    <person n="gracchus-bio-7"><!-- n. 6 -->
                        <persName>
Tib. Sempronius Gracchus
                        </persName>
                        <sex>m</sex>
<state when="-177"><label>cos></label></state>
<state when="-163"><label>cos></label></state>
                    </person>

    
                    <relationGrp type="FAMILY">
                    <relation name="union" type="marriage" mutual="u1 scipio-bio-10" n="u1_scipio-bio-10"/><!--u+number: unknown. Stands for Pomponia, mother of Scipio Africanus, not mentioned explicitly with her name in this entry-->
                    <relation name="generation" type="genetic" active="u1_scipio-bio-10" passive="scipio-bio-13 scipio-bio-14"/><!-- P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus {Father of P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus} -->
                    <!-- L. Cornelius Scipio Asiaticus {his brother Lucius}{Lucius}{L. Scipio} x 4 {brother Lucius}{his brother Lucius}-->
                    
                    <relation name="union" type="marriage" mutual="aemilia-bio-2_scipio-bio-13" n="aemilia-bio-2_scipio-bio-13"/> <!-- P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus the Elder + Aemilia Paulla. Examples of POS: {four children} {married Aemilia} {daughter of L. Aemilius Paulus} -->                    
                    <relation name="generation" type="genetic" active="scipio-bio-13_aemilia-bio-2" passive="cornelia-bio-4 cornelia-bio 5 scipio-bio-15 scipio-bio-16"/> <!-- P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus+Aemilia Paulla. Examples of POS: {four children} {two sons [Nos. 14 and 15]} -->
                    <!-- L. or Cn. Cornelius Scipio {four children} {young son of Africanus} {son}-->
                    <!-- Cornelia Major. Examples of POS: {four children} {two daughters}{the elder[of the two daughters]}{married P. Scipio Nasica Corculum [No. 23]}-->
                    <!-- cornelia-bio-5 = scipio-bio-18: Cornelia Africana. Examples of POS: {four children} {two daughters}{the younger[of the two daughters]}{[married]Tib. Gracchus}{mother of the two celebrated tribunes}-->
                     
                   <relation name="union" type="marriage" mutual="cornelia-bio-5_gracchus-bio-7" n="cornelia-bio-5_gracchus-bio-7"/>
<!-- Examples of POS: {[married]Tib. Gracchus} generations of the two Gracchus brothers -->
                    
                    <relation name="union" type="marriage" mutual="cornelia-bio-4 scipio-bio-24" n="cornelia-bio-4_scipio-bio-24"/><!-- Cornelia magiore + P. Scipio Nasica Corculum. Examples of POS: {married P. Scipio Nasica Corculum [No. 23]} -->
                    </relationGrp>
                    
                    <relationGrp type="GENS">
                        <relation name="gens_branch" type="has_branch" active="cornelia-gens-bio-1" passive="scipio-bio-1"/>
                        <relation name="gens_branch" type="has_branch" active="aemilia-gens-bio-1" passive="paullus-bio-1"/>
     <relation name="gens_branch" type="has_branch" active="sempronia-gens-bio-1" passive="gracchus-bio-1"/>
                        <relation name="branch_person" type="is_branch_for" active="scipio-bio-1" passive="cornelia-bio-4 cornelia-bio-5 scipio-bio-10 scipio-bio-13 scipio-bio-14 scipio-bio-15 scipio-bio-16 scipio-bio-24"/><!-- For women: native gens-branch -->
                        <relation name="branch_person" type="is_branch_for" active="paullus-bio-1" passive="aemilia-bio-2"/><!-- For women: native gens-branch -->
     <relation name="branch_person" type="is_branch_for" active="gracchus-bio-1" passive="gracchus-bio-7"/>
                    </relationGrp>
                </listPerson>
               </particDesc>  
        </profileDesc>
    </teiHeader>
    <text>
        <body>
            
<p>entries related to the persons described above</p>
        </body>
    </text>
</TEI>










2009/5/29 M L <[log in to unmask]>

Hi,

I am going to evaluate these two modules of the TEI:

13. Names, Dates, People, and Places

and 

15.2.2 The Participant Description

of the P5 in order to work on the relationships between consuls in the Roman Empire (social and family relationships of the family involved in one of the higher political function).

I would like to have a feedback of any experience with these modules and eventually methodological advice.


Which kind of visualisation would you suggest?

Have you met any limits to encode certain reality?

Are there any tags that you found difficult or useless?

Are there any project already visible with result online?

Any group of discussion dedicated to these matters?

I thank all of you for your attention, have a good day

Best regards,
--
Marion
Doctorante
Università di Bologne, Dipartimento di Storia Antica, +39 051 209 8387
Université de Provence (Aix-Marseille 1).
Carnet de recherche «Épigraphie en réseau»:
http://eer.hypotheses.org/ (plateforme «Hypothèse» du CLEO, CNRS, Marseille)
Page web du Centre Camille Julllian
http://sites.univ-provence.fr/ccj/spip.php?article65  
Page web sur Digital Clacissist
http://wiki.digitalclassicist.org/Epigraphie_en_reseau



--
Marion Lamé
Doctorante
Università di Bologna, Dipartimento di Storia Antica, +39 051 209 8387

Université de Provence (Aix-Marseille 1).
Carnet de recherche «Épigraphie en réseau»:
http://eer.hypotheses.org/ (plateforme «Hypothèse» du CLEO, CNRS, Marseille)
Page web du Centre Camille Julllian
http://sites.univ-provence.fr/ccj/spip.php?article65  
Page web sur Digital Clacissist
http://wiki.digitalclassicist.org/Epigraphie_en_reseau



--
Marion Lamé
Doctorante
Università di Bologna, Dipartimento di Storia Antica, +39 051 209 8387
Université de Provence (Aix-Marseille 1).
Carnet de recherche «Épigraphie en réseau»:
http://eer.hypotheses.org/ (plateforme «Hypothèse» du CLEO, CNRS, Marseille)
Page web du Centre Camille Julllian
http://sites.univ-provence.fr/ccj/spip.php?article65  
Page web sur Digital Clacissist
http://wiki.digitalclassicist.org/Epigraphie_en_reseau



--
Marion Lamé
Doctorante
Università di Bologna, Dipartimento di Storia Antica, +39 051 209 8387
Université de Provence (Aix-Marseille 1).
Carnet de recherche «Épigraphie en réseau»:
http://eer.hypotheses.org/ (plateforme «Hypothèse» du CLEO, CNRS, Marseille)
Page web du Centre Camille Julllian
http://sites.univ-provence.fr/ccj/spip.php?article65  
Page web sur Digital Clacissist
http://wiki.digitalclassicist.org/Epigraphie_en_reseau