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What happens if the syllable is initial in the word and there is no onset
consonant?

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM, maikxlx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:47:00 -0500, Eric Christopherson <
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> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Oct 20, 2009, at 2:22 AM, Njenfalgar wrote:
> > >> each stressed syllable gets high or low tone
> > >> (unstressed
> > >> syllables remain neutral) depending on whether the consonant before is
> > >> voiceless resp. voiced.
> > >
> > >Sorry to nitpick, but "respectively" isn't used that way in English (I
> > >assume you to mean "or" or "versus"), and AFAIK when it is used it
> > >isn't abbreviated. I wouldn't comment on it except that it can be very
> > >hard for non-German-speaking people to guess what it means.
> >
> > In mathematical English one would perhaps not use precisely _this_
> > construction, but it's very understandable, and we're pretty free with
> > "respectively"s, which can be "resp." informally.  (I wonder if this
> > feature
> > of mathematical writing came about through translations from German.)
>  I'd
> > totally write without a second thought
> >  "Each stressed syllable gets high, resp. low, tone if the consonant
> before
> > is
> >  voiceless, resp. voiced."
> > Njenfalgar's construction I might not write, but it seems like the sort
> of
> > mixup I've probably committed in speech before, as a reasonable blend
> > between that and your amendment with "or".
> >
> > Maybe I'm biased the other direction, but it would be a little surprising
> > to
> > me if Njenfalgar's sentence tripped a native English speaker up.
> >
> This is the first time I've seen this "resp" construction, and I could
> glork
> it, but it made me pause.  This seems to me the most natural way to say it:
>
> "Each stressed syllable gets high or low tone if the consonant
> before is voiceless or voiced respectively."
> A terser way to do it in written E is to put the ordered alternatives in
> parentheses:
>
>  "Each stressed syllable gets high (low) tone if the consonant before
> is voiceless (voiced)."
>