On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:52 AM, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > ...and the Roman script, as used by the Romans themselves (and many others) > provides exactly six handy vowel symbols: |a e i o u y| ;) > Indeed, and this reminds me of one more possible (and I promise from me the last!) use of <x> that I don't think I have seen mentioned yet: /Z/. As seen here: <p b t d k g> /p b t d k g/ <f v s z c x h> /f v s z S Z h/ <m n q r l j w> /m n N r l j w/ <a e i o u y> /a e i o u @/ Affricates can be covered by the expected digraphs. This system works efficiently enough for the 6-vowel variants of the vaguely euroclonish phonologies being considered. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:00 PM, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi, > > This thread began with, as we see in parenthesis, the recycling of |x} in > some conlangs to represent a vowel. Since then we've commented on other > letters, normally used as consonants, recycled as vowels and, perhaps more > often, consonant-letters recycled to represent other consonant sounds (I > don't think we've found vowels recycled to represent consonants - i don't, > of course, count vowels used as semi-vowels). > > But I don't recall any mention so far of recycling letters to denote > suprasegmental features, e.g. tone. > > In the Hmong Romanized Popular Alphabet (which BTW has |w| as a mid high > unrounded _vowel_ ), tone is shown by final letters: > -b high tone > -j high falling tone > -v mid ricing tone > -g mid low tone > -s low tone > -m low falling tone > > A syllable not marked by one of these finals is mid tone. > > While some are using letters which would not otherwise be used (e.g. b, j), > some do occur in initial position with fairly 'normal' sounds. But as no > Hmong syllable may end in a consonant, these letters can be recycled as > finals to denote tone. > > I feel sure some conlangs must similarly have used/do use letters to denote > tone. > If it works for them, then power to them, but to be honest _that_ makes me want to cover my eyes!