On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:15:36 -0800, Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Bruno Barcelos ><[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> I don't think so... I think reflexive is when the subject is the same as the >> object... >> >> Like "I love myself" > >That would be a reflexive voice (if it were treated as a distinct >voice), but a reflexive pronoun could be used in any position other >than subject AIUI. English "myself"/"yourself"/"himself"/etc. are >reflexive pronouns. > >John's example still seems strange to me: > >> vi p@jOtE = I create >> vi anav p@jOtE = I craete for you >> vIvi p@jOtE = I create for myself. > >/vIvi/ doesn't seem to be referring back to the subject of the >sentence; instead, it seems to be acting as subject AND beneficiary. That's true, GW. Maybe vIvi is really vI=vi: syntactically a reflexive pronoun + a subject pronoun while being a single phonological word? What do the other pronouns look like, JL?