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Very much agree with Martin.  Just yesterday, I really wanted to be
able to put two heads inside one div, because two distinct heading
clearly exist.
Doug


On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Martin Holmes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 11-08-25 09:02 AM, Julia Flanders wrote:
>>
>> This may be a really silly question, or a silly way of approaching the
>> topic, but as long as we're thinking things over I would like to get
>> the thoughts of the group  on this:
>>
>> To what extent does the TEI's successful functioning as an interchange
>> language depend on its vocabulary and the way it associates semantics
>> with specific terms, and to what extent does it depend on the specific
>> structures (i.e. where elements can go and what they can contain) that
>> are specified in the TEI schema?
>
> This is a really important point. For me, the vocabulary is key, and the
> constraints are often annoyingly restrictive -- why can't element X appear
> inside element Y, when my document has obvious instances of feature X inside
> feature Y?
>
> For instance, why can't I have this?
>
> <div>
>  <p></p>
>  <head></head>
> </div>
>
> Here, I'm trying to use the vocabulary accurately to describe what appears
> in my document (a heading after a paragraph), but the "grammar" constraints
> are frustrating me, and I begin to wonder why they exist at all. But there
> are strong feelings in the community about how documents are expected to be
> structured, and many would, I'm sure, tell me that my document _can't_
> actually be like that; a <head> after a <p> must imply a new <div>.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>>
>> In using the phrase "successful functioning" I don't mean to set aside
>> the debate about whether it *does* function successfully as an
>> interchange language--I'm really curious as to whether vocabulary or
>> grammar is really the  key to whatever success we do attribute to, or
>> seek from, the TEI.
>>
>> It seems to me that the answer to this question might affect how we
>> approach the problem of consistency and constraint. But I may be wrong
>> about this and I'd be glad to know more about it than I do.
>>
>> best, Julia
>>
>
> --
> Martin Holmes
> University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
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>