On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Peter Cyrus <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I think default associativity should match the order of modifier-modified, > so that "black bird house" should default to "black (bird house)". And of course, I immediately thought "(blackbird) house". > But the St Martin's example is odd because prepositional phrases in English > go on the "wrong" side of the noun they modify. We should probably have > postpositional phrases in front. "Wrong side"? Whatever side a language sticks its prepositional phrases is obviously the "right side" for that language! And for Adam, clearly, you listen to the same (sort of) radio station I do! At least some of the time! Padraic > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Okay, so i finally did the required research and satified myself on this >> question -- it is the academy which is in the fields, more or less. >> Actually, it was (long ago) the church of St. Martin which was way out in >> the fields between London and Westminster (now it is well within the >> urbanized area). So it was/is the church of St. Martin which is in the >> fields. The academy held its first concert in said church and took its >> name >> therefrom. So it is the academy which is in the church which is named for >> St. Martin and said church is located in the no-longer-extant fields. >> >> Adam whose curiosity is satisfied >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Philip Newton <[log in to unmask] >> >wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 17:11, Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > > such and such a piece by so and so played by The Academy of St. >> > > Martin in the Fields. I have always wondered, is it St. Martin who is >> in >> > > the fields or is it the academy which is in the fields? Sometimes the >> > > ambiguity is not readily resolvable without more specific knowledge of >> > the >> > > specific circumstance. >> > >> > Ah yes, unlike other famous examples such as "Last night, I shot an >> > elephant in my pyjamas. How an elephant got into my pyjamas, I'll >> > never know." >> > >> > Lots of cases where something (such as prepositional phrase) could >> > attach at various levels to syntactic structures. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Philip >> > -- >> > Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]> >> > >> > -- a ptasconumî mîftupon-i-tlupîm; cto? hĩ-s-op’ozrcîr-i-lklamunetta dlimcso? Why does the seeker seek? Has he lost his way? (for seeks the maker-of-search; why? indeed the way at-lost he?) Tcani 1.