On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:37:40 -0800, Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Paul Bennett <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> What intrigues me, though, is a writing system that would let someone >>> literate in Hamer be more or less literate in the rest of Ethiopia. To this >>> end, I'm thinking of a Ge'ez based writing system. > [...] >>> Questions, comments, suggestions? >> >>Personally, I'd try to keep it as similar to standard Ge'ez as >>possible, so keeping it syllabic instead of turning it into an >>alphabet. > > Agreed. > >>A virama of some kind could be introduced for consonants not >>followed by a vowel; a second virama-like diacritic would be used for >>unreleased final consonants. > > Conveniently, if /a e i o u/ are the only spelled vowels, there remain two > unused vowels which could be used for viramas! No need to introduce more > diacritics. Taking Ge'ez C@ for C0 is a perfectly logical thing to do, I > think, especially as the C@ graphemes are the formally basic ones. > > [And let me be the record as saying that contrastive releasedness is > completely hatstand. I'm sure I've read at least one phonology text > asserting that it's impossible; I'd been planning to leave it out of Gleb > for that reason...] > >>I'm not quite sure I understand how the vowels work from your previous >>post. Can all of those vowels follow any consonant? If so, new >>diacritics may be required for glottalized and laryngeal vowels. > > I think Paul's original idea works fine here: just find two unused consonant > series, let me symbolise them as h*V and ?*V, and write glottal vowels as CV > ?*V and laryngeal ones as CV h*V. Only if those vowels never follow a consonant, if we're staying syllabic. > Given the harmony, perhaps it is only necessary to use this spelling once in > a root, and the rest will be inferrable. He did say that the harmony is not always predictable. > By the way, Paul, would you mind quoting some transcribed text in Hamer so > we can see how this phonology plays out in practice? That would probably help. Heck, with a better idea of the phonotactics we could probably come up with a tengwar mode just for the hell of it.