Thanks for the information, I'll have to do some research in this field ! On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:56:22 -0500, Patrick Dunn <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >An interesting notion. There are some linguists working along similar >lines, yielding work like this: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_primes > >Which I find fascinating and intend, at some point, to spend some time on. > >On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Yaesen Kole <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> Hello everyone ! >> >> I want to talk to you about my project: A while ago, I wondered (for a >> story) what form would a language take if it was designed to communicate >> with aliens. One characteristic immediately jumped in my mind: a vocabulary >> as small and exhaustive as possible. >> >> So I wondered how many root concepts could be isolated in a list (in a >> conlang, all the other possible words with a link with those words could be >> obtained by adding affixes to the root word). I couldn't find such a list, >> so I decided to make one. >> >> But (and here is the technical part) to make such a list, I had to use an >> object-oriented approach. Think about it: >> >> If we take the example of an object (class "artificial object"): >> An artificial object has: >> _a user (class "person") >> _a maker (class "person") >> _a use (class "action") >> _a verb for using >> _a verb for making >> _ etc... >> >> Eventually, the idea is to take a large list of words, sort them in a >> "class tree", and after that, link them with each other to have kind of a >> "concept network". That will help me isolate basic concepts. >> >> To do this work, I'm using a list of words (a HUGE list, ~150k words (with >> nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc...), necessary for exhaustiveness), all in >> French (my native language), that I reduced from ~30k words to ~15k words >> for nouns (didn't process verbs or adjectives or anything else for now) by >> removing redundancies and invented words you'd never see in a conversation >> (the list was made out of lots of books, with statistics that I will use >> later). It's VERY long, but I really want to finish it. >> >> This is a work that has been occupying my free time for about 2 years now, >> and I was wondering if anyone here ever attempted a similar approach? if >> you did, could you show me your list of classes? could you tell me about >> your results? I intend to publish mine of course, when I'm ready... but I >> have some tricky little problems to solve before that! >> >> Friendly, >> Yaesen >> > > > >-- >Second Person, a chapbook of poetry by Patrick Dunn, is now available for >order from Finishing Line >Press<http://www.finishinglinepress.com/NewReleasesandForthcomingTitles.htm> >and >Amazon<http://www.amazon.com/Second-Person-Patrick-Dunn/dp/1599249065/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1324342341&sr=8-2>.