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On Nov 10, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Padraic Brown wrote:

> --- On Sat, 11/10/12, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> and I've found some examples of _gwae ni_ (woe are we) from a quick 
>> Google.
> 
> Woe "are" we? 
> 
> Vulgar English?? ;)

But Padraic -- you wrote:

> Avantimannish follows the Germanic pattern of woe + dative (with or sans
> verb): Beouten them wes wa! = but woe were them... (Aesop);

:)