On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Hallo conlangers! > > On Saturday 12 January 2013 18:53:18 Patrick Dunn wrote: > > > H. sapiens evolved about 200,000 ybp, and the commonly accepted date for > > the start of language is between 30,000 and 100,000 ybp. Why is that? > Why > > wouldn't one simply assume that H. sapiens had language from the get-go? > > What's the evidence for such a late date? > > I never understood this discrepancy, either. I think it is simply > that many linguists are not up to date what regards human evolution, > and still work with older timelines of human evolution that are now > known to be too shallow. > I have never heard the 30,000 year figure. Any time I have heard a linguist say it they have said it could it the origin of language was between 100,000 years ago and a million years ago -- not picking one or proposing another date, but actually saying that that is the range. Unfortunately, I haven't read the actual literature that this comes from.