On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:53 AM, J. 'Mach' Wust <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:06:52 -0300, Njenfalgar wrote: > > >Outside of Spain I think the lenition of the syllable-final /s/ is quite > >common. All Latin Americans I can remember having spoken with did it at > >least in not-all-to-careful speech. Some would delete the /s/ entirely, > >leaving Murcian-style extra vowels (the Cuban I was in the office with for > >a while pronounced /e/ and /o/ as [E] and [O] in checked syllables, > leaving > >a height difference behind whenever underlying /s/ disappeared). > > From what I have learnt, the Latin American regions syllable-final [s] > lenition or elision are not necessarily contiguous. There is a broad > tendency for mountain regions to keep the [s] and for coastal regions to > drop it, though I darkly remember that this was a contentious issue without > any consensus on the possible reasons (substrates, waves of immigration, > openness to transportation, climate). One theory is that all of Latin > America used to have an archaic Southern Spain Spanish, but then, a more > Northern and more modern Spanish spread from the colonial centers (after > the > Spanish court had firmly established itself in Madrid), while remote areas > conserved the original speech with typical features such as voseo*, merger > of syllable-final [r] and [l], or elision of syllable-final [s]. > > * Voseo is the name for using the ancient honorific "vos". Nowadays, it is > best known from Argentina, which used to be a very remote area until the > 19th century, having been colonized from Peru (and not from the sea). > > -- > grüess > mach > In my very limited experience (linguistically speaking) here in Mexico, that change from s to h is considered a "costeño" (coastal) accent. I've heard it from people from the states of Baja California Sur, Guerrero, and Veracruz, mainly. Also, I think in Venezuela they have it in some regions. Ayam. -- Nac Mac Feegle! Wee Free Men! Nae King! Nae Quin! Nae Laird! Nae Master! We Willna Be Fooled Again!