On 02/03/2014 16:20, Alex Fink wrote: > Welcome, Rowan! Yep, welcome! > On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 20:19:30 +0000, R A Brown wrote: [snip] >> Also we have no evidence that I know of that Glen >> Greenlaw was using specifically English values for the >> letters. Indeed Nakui = ['nakwi] strongly suggests that >> he was not, as I have observed above. > > At the top of my list of hypotheses is that this "knock > we" business is a simplification, filtered through > Cook's ears and pen, for a linguistically naive > English-spreaking audience, Most certainly. [snip] > On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:23:52 -0600, Adam Walker wrote: > >> However, q *is* used as a vowel in the orthography for >> Natqgu, as are c and x > and r and z. > > How did I not know about Natqgu, though? It looks > entirely impenetrable to anyone who grew up with a more > normal use of the Latin alphabet. Here's a sample, from > > http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/Melanesia/natqgu_book.pdf Yikes!!! It looks like a conlang! :) >> On 25/02/2014 10:29, Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets >> wrote: >>> The last remark is interesting: the language has very >>> complex verbs, but all regular (with a single >>> exception, the verb "to go"), and this despite a >>> fast rate of language change (at least according to >>> the interviewee). [...] >> >> I wonder what's happening there also. I take the >> whole of that last paragraph with quite a sizeable >> pinch of salt. > > Yeaaah, that paragraph is pervaded with the sort of > anthropological ethnocentrism that I thought was > supposed to have gone out of style in the early 20C, with > a soupçon of the old "you should learn Latin in school > 'cause it's inherently more logical" mode of thought as > well. Everything they put their minds to is a barbarian > shambles! But their language they don't put their minds > to so it's still full of Godly perfection. Tho how you can use a language without putting your mind to him, I don't know! On reflexion, I think its more than a large pinch of salt that paragraph needs. It's probably better assigned to the trash can. -- Ray ================================== http://www.carolandray.plus.com ================================== "Ein Kopf, der auf seine eigene Kosten denkt, wird immer Eingriffe in die Sprache thun." [J.G. Hamann, 1760] "A mind that thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language".