2014-03-27 17:34, Puey McCleary skrev: > Also, names are all going to be different. Not totally, for some of them. There might well have been a general-ruler down the line who fought against enemies of Bretain -- Scoti, Picti or maybe even Angles -- whose name was whatever Artorius becomes in Old Bretanese. Whether he became famous through victory or defeat is another matter. Chaucer is a Norman name, and I'm sure there exists a reflex of CALCIARIUS in Bretanese, since evryone needs a shoemaker, and certainly some, perhaps also a poet, having it as surname. Morris is ultimately Latin Mauritius, and I bet there are some named after the French saint Guilhem <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Gellone> (around whom a lot of yarn has been spinned in modern times), or even after William the Coqueror, who under ceteris paribus existed in BART too. (The Conquest was in no way an ethnic affair, and even OTL the Norman rule hardly became one, pace Walter Scott et alii. In BART the second generation of Normans would of course speak Bretanese!) Mr. Shagsper is unfortunately harder to make Latinate, though there must have been many *LANCIARIUS in BART, some even DE VADO STRATO AD AVONA, whatever these etymologies will become in Bretanese. "Lewis Carroll" including his real first name Charles are Germanic names, but passed through Latin and French, and I see no reason they could not pass into Bretanese through French and Latin as well. Clovis was Clovis and Charlemagne was Charlemagne in BART too, under the ceteris paribus principle. His real surname Dodgson is, though hard to see, ultimately from Roger, another Frenchified Germanic name, which the Normans no doubt brought over and planted on Bretanese soil in some form in BART too. Lutwidge is of course a form (from where?) of the same name as Lewis/Louis. Pre-Raphaelites? Surely there were some Romantics who regarded the Renaissance as a misfortune in BART too, again under ceteris paribus. What sayeth Ray?