From the website link below for all the details

"The transfer requirements apply only to individuals who have been determined to have an EMC(emergency medical condition) that has not been stabilized. The hospital has no further EMTALA obligation to an individual who has been determined not to have an EMC or whose EMC has been stabilized, or who has been admitted as an inpatient "

Technically one could accept an inpatient to the ED for further evaluation if appropriate calls are made (accepting physicians etc).? It would not be sensible as it would incur unnecessary cost to the patient for an additional ED visit?

Kamal Chavda

From: Pediatric Emergency Medicine Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Peter Auerbach [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Inpatient transfers

EMTALA does not apply to inpatients.  Period (there are no exceptions).
So an inpatient to ED transfer is not an EMTALA violation.
There are many other reasons that an inpatient to ED transfer is
undesirable and/or inappropriate ...
I'm just saying that EMTALA is not one of them.

Peter Auerbach, MD, FAAEM, FAAP
Pediatric Emergency Medicine
Randall Children's Hospital
Portland, OR

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Niel Miele <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On occasion, we do accept.  The EMTALA usual rule of thumb is that a
> patient may not be transferred to a lower level of care (For this purpose,
> the ED is considered a lower level of care than an inpatient bed).
> However, it can be argued that a Pediatric ED may provide a higher level of
> care than an inpatient unit at a non-pediatric facility.
> If you truly have no inpatient beds available, it is not technically an
> EMTALA violation to accept the patient.  Although you have to have
> capability AND capacity, if you are able to care for the patient safely in
> the ED, then you have the capacity.
> The big rub in all of this is patient satisfaction.  Patient leaves a
> hospital's inpatient unit where they may have a private room and bed, are
> transferred via ambulance, and are placed on a stretcher in an Emergency
> Department for what may be hours, with the understanding that the reason
> for transfer is that you're going to fix everything that the other hospital
> didn't accomplish.
> Finally, if the hospitalist accepts the transfer, and you haven't
> established a mechanism whereby the hospitalist is communicating with the
> ED, then the hospitalist is technically responsible for that patient.
> Hopefully, improved communication will avoid this issue.
> Niel Miele, M.D.
> Rutgers,-RWJMS
> New Brunswick, NJ
> > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:01:36 -0500
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Inpatient transfers
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Does your ED accept transfers of INPATIENTS from other hospitals?  If
> so, is the PEM attending a part of the decision to accept the patient or
> does the hospitalist accept them without PEM attending involvement?
> >
> > Do you take inpatients from other hospitals when there are no floor or
> PICU beds available in your hospital?  Does it depend on whether there are
> already admitted patients boarding in the ED and whether the ED volume is
> high?
> >
> > If the hospitalist accepts them without PEM attending involvement,
> shouldn't either the transferring MD or the hospitalist inform the PED of
> the transfer?
> >
> > Thanks for your input.
> >
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