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On 8 May 2016 at 08:58, And Rosta <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 8 May 2016 15:49, "Alex Fink" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 8 May 2016 03:15:39 -0400, Galen Buttitta <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> >which then was generalized into a sense of genuineness, then finally
> into a
>> >definite marker.
>>
>> I was with you till here.  How does a morphological operation meaning "a
> genuine N" come to be read as "that N, you know the one I mean"?  Is there
> a sentence that allows both readings? another intermediate meaning? ...
>
> A: "I'm an admirer of Obama's beauty."
> B: "Huh? Michelle Obama?"
> A: "No, Obama Obama."
>
> That is, the echtest, most Obamaey Obama is the Obama we are most familiar
> with; the most prototypical is the most familiar.

I would further point out that stressing the definite article is often
used in an analogous manner. Thus, one could also so "No, /the/
Obama". That seems to me a pretty clear example of a sentence that
allows both readings.

-l.

-l.