On 8 May 2016 at 08:58, And Rosta <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On 8 May 2016 15:49, "Alex Fink" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 8 May 2016 03:15:39 -0400, Galen Buttitta < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >which then was generalized into a sense of genuineness, then finally > into a >> >definite marker. >> >> I was with you till here. How does a morphological operation meaning "a > genuine N" come to be read as "that N, you know the one I mean"? Is there > a sentence that allows both readings? another intermediate meaning? ... > > A: "I'm an admirer of Obama's beauty." > B: "Huh? Michelle Obama?" > A: "No, Obama Obama." > > That is, the echtest, most Obamaey Obama is the Obama we are most familiar > with; the most prototypical is the most familiar. I would further point out that stressing the definite article is often used in an analogous manner. Thus, one could also so "No, /the/ Obama". That seems to me a pretty clear example of a sentence that allows both readings. -l. -l.