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Thanks Jack. ‘neut’ is Basnage for neutral. That sort of detail we look at later.

Basically, you are using <seg>.

Fine by me. 

These entries are rich, and generally idiosyncratic. I’ll see how I can handle this.

Another problem is <colloc> as these appear anywhere in the text, so I use <seg> again as <colloc> seems very restricted to a very simplistic vision of collocation.

Best

Geoffrey



> Le 5 juil. 2016 à 16:18, Jack Bowers <[log in to unmask]> a écrit :
> 
> Hello Geoffrey,
> 
> Here’s what I’ve got for that… fun problem :-) 
> 
> Best,
> Jack
> 
>       <entry xml:id="Rire">
>             <form type="lemma">
>                <orth>RIRE</orth>
>                <gramGrp>
>                   <pos ana="verbe">v.</pos>
>                   <subc>neut.</subc><!-- what does this stand for? -->                 
>                </gramGrp>
>                
>                <form type="inflected">
>                   <!-- one @type="inflected" block per tense, mood, etc. (only if more than one person form, useful for inheriting gramGrp info; 
> Could also maybe call it "paradigm” perhaps, but the presence of pronouns and auxilliary verb makes them phrases which needs to be specified -->
>                   
>                   <!-- the verb form <seg> should always be marked with @ana="#V" and that is what the <gramGrp> info is applied to -->
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">ris</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <per>1</per>
>                         <number>sg</number>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #2s #inf">tu</seg> <seg ana="#V">ris</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <per>2</per>
>                         <number>sg</number>
>                         <gram type="register">inf</gram>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #3s">il</seg> <seg ana="#V">ris</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <per>3</per>
>                         <number>sg</number>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #1pl">nous</seg> <seg ana="#V">rions</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <per>1</per>
>                         <number>pl</number>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <!-- this <gramGrp> goes here because it applies to all the inflected forms in the <form type="inflected"> they all inherit the <tns>pres.</tns> but they all also specify their own differences within thier <gramGrp>'s in the forms -->
>                   <gramGrp>
>                      <tns>pres.</tns>
>                   </gramGrp>
>                </form>
>                
>                <form type="inflected">
>                   <!-- this is a somewhat arbitrary grouping of the rest in a single <form type="inflected"> but they all are 1st person sg and so they will all inherit that feature from the <gramGrp> at the bottom of the form.  -->
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rious</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <gram><!-- What form is this? --></gram>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <!-- 'je ris' is already in 1s above-->
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#Aux #1s">ai</seg> <seg ana="#V">ri</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <tns>pt</tns>
>                         <subc>comp</subc>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rirai</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <tns>fut</tns>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Dem">Que</seg> <seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rie</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <mood>subj.</mood>
>                         <tns>pres</tns>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <!-- alternately you could only include the pronoun and the verb form and create an example w/ <cit> in which you include the whole thing (this would make assigning xml:id's to (at least these) forms necessary -->
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Dem">Que</seg> <seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">risse</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <mood>subj.</mood>
>                         <gram type="aspect">imp</gram>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <form type="phrase">
>                      <orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rirais</seg></orth>
>                      <gramGrp>
>                         <mood>cond.</mood>
>                      </gramGrp>
>                   </form>
>                   
>                   <!-- this is the commonly inherited info -->
>                   <gramGrp>
>                      <per>1</per>
>                      <number>sg</number>
>                   </gramGrp>
>                </form>
>                
>                
>                <form type="participle"><!-- any other @type suggestions? -->
>                   <orth>Riant</orth>
>                   <gramGrp>
>                      <tns>pres</tns>
>                   </gramGrp>
>                </form>
> 
>             </form>
>          </entry>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:08 PM, [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> Although I am normally only working on terms in the Basnage dictionary, I have just coded the entry for RIRE (laugh).
>> 
>> How would you handle this?
>> 
>>> <entry xml:id="Rire"><form><orth>RIRE</orth><gramGrp><pos ana="verbe">v.</pos><subc>neut.</subc>
>>>                   <tns>Je ris, tu ris, il rit, nous rions. Je rious. Je ris. J'ai ri. Je rirai. Que je rie. 
>>>                      Que je risse, ou je rirais. Riant. </tns></gramGrp></form>
>> 
>> For the moment, I have just chucked it in and am not clear how to handle this. One interesting aspect of his work is how he will fully illustrate usage with examples. There is a strong learner dictionary element in this dictionary.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Geoffrey
>> 
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