Thanks Jack. ‘neut’ is Basnage for neutral. That sort of detail we look at later.

Basically, you are using <seg>.

Fine by me. 

These entries are rich, and generally idiosyncratic. I’ll see how I can handle this.

Another problem is <colloc> as these appear anywhere in the text, so I use <seg> again as <colloc> seems very restricted to a very simplistic vision of collocation.

Best

Geoffrey



Le 5 juil. 2016 à 16:18, Jack Bowers <[log in to unmask]> a écrit :

Hello Geoffrey,

Here’s what I’ve got for that… fun problem :-) 

Best,
Jack

     
 <entry xml:id="Rire">
            <form type="lemma">
              
<orth>RIRE</orth>
              
<gramGrp>
                 
<pos ana="verbe">v.</pos>
                 
<subc>neut.</subc><!-- what does this stand for? -->                
              
</gramGrp>
              
              
<form type="inflected">
                 
<!-- one @type="inflected" block per tense, mood, etc. (only if more than one person form, useful for inheriting gramGrp info; 
Could also maybe call it "paradigm” perhaps, but the presence of pronouns and auxilliary verb makes them phrases which needs to be specified -->
                 
                 
<!-- the verb form <seg> should always be marked with @ana="#V" and that is what the <gramGrp> info is applied to -->
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">ris</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<per>1</per>
                       
<number>sg</number>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #2s #inf">tu</seg> <seg ana="#V">ris</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<per>2</per>
                       
<number>sg</number>
                       
<gram type="register">inf</gram>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #3s">il</seg> <seg ana="#V">ris</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<per>3</per>
                       
<number>sg</number>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #1pl">nous</seg> <seg ana="#V">rions</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<per>1</per>
                       
<number>pl</number>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<!-- this <gramGrp> goes here because it applies to all the inflected forms in the <form type="inflected"> they all inherit the <tns>pres.</tns> but they all also specify their own differences within thier <gramGrp>'s in the forms -->
                 
<gramGrp>
                    
<tns>pres.</tns>
                 
</gramGrp>
              
</form>
              
              
<form type="inflected">
                 
<!-- this is a somewhat arbitrary grouping of the rest in a single <form type="inflected"> but they all are 1st person sg and so they will all inherit that feature from the <gramGrp> at the bottom of the form.  -->
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rious</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<gram><!-- What form is this? --></gram>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<!-- 'je ris' is already in 1s above-->
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#Aux #1s">ai</seg> <seg ana="#V">ri</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<tns>pt</tns>
                       
<subc>comp</subc>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rirai</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<tns>fut</tns>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Dem">Que</seg> <seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rie</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<mood>subj.</mood>
                       
<tns>pres</tns>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<!-- alternately you could only include the pronoun and the verb form and create an example w/ <cit> in which you include the whole thing (this would make assigning xml:id's to (at least these) forms necessary -->
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Dem">Que</seg> <seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">risse</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<mood>subj.</mood>
                       
<gram type="aspect">imp</gram>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<form type="phrase">
                    
<orth><seg ana="#Pron #1s">je</seg> <seg ana="#V">rirais</seg></orth>
                    
<gramGrp>
                       
<mood>cond.</mood>
                    
</gramGrp>
                 
</form>
                 
                 
<!-- this is the commonly inherited info -->
                 
<gramGrp>
                    
<per>1</per>
                    
<number>sg</number>
                 
</gramGrp>
              
</form>
              
              
              
<form type="participle"><!-- any other @type suggestions? -->
                 
<orth>Riant</orth>
                 
<gramGrp>
                    
<tns>pres</tns>
                 
</gramGrp>
              
</form>

           
</form>
        
</entry>







On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:08 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear All,

Although I am normally only working on terms in the Basnage dictionary, I have just coded the entry for RIRE (laugh).

How would you handle this?

<entry xml:id="Rire"><form><orth>RIRE</orth><gramGrp><pos ana="verbe">v.</pos><subc>neut.</subc>
                  <tns>Je ris, tu ris, il rit, nous rions. Je rious. Je ris. J'ai ri. Je rirai. Que je rie.
                     Que je risse, ou je rirais. Riant. </tns></gramGrp></form>

For the moment, I have just chucked it in and am not clear how to handle this. One interesting aspect of his work is how he will fully illustrate usage with examples. There is a strong learner dictionary element in this dictionary.

Best

Geoffrey