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The Sapir Whorf hypothesis is not only negative... The language is not only
a constraint...
A special structure of a language that give new world view or cognition is
exactly the plot of the story and typically SWH...

2018-03-30 20:02 GMT+02:00 Matthew George <[log in to unmask]>:

> Alas, the problem with Ms. Furrow's analysis is an error that many, many
> people with backgrounds in physics make (I don't know why, precisely).
>
> To steal from Frank Herbert:  "Whether it is spoken or not, a thought is a
> real thing and has powers of reality."  It isn't possible to have different
> 'experiences' without the physical structure of the brain altering.  In
> this regard the movie is superior to the short story, which IIRC does make
> the linguist's consciousness epiphenomenal.  Just as there is no software,
> only hardware, there is no mental, only physical.
>
> Neither the story nor the movie are about the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which
> holds that cognition is limited by language.  Both have the reverse:  that
> language is profoundly shaped by cognition, and that it's not possible to
> fully learn a language without learning the thinking behind it.  Learning
> Heptapod doesn't change thinking, but it's the goad and challenge that
> leads the protagonist to break through her conditioning and think
> differently.  And that makes it possible for her to do things like
> seemingly violate the causality of sequential time.
>
> Matt G.
>