Oh I don't know. Itlani opera definitely has a realistic opera sound to it, based on the samples I've been treated to over the years. On 07/23/2018 04:40 PM, James Hopkins wrote: > Well, I don't know about that... For me singing in any language is always > harder than speaking in any language! Anyone who has had the severe > misfortune to hear my singing voice will testify, it is not something to > which anyone would voluntarily subject themselves. ;) > > Itlani Jim (tashe, tashe, pronyate ra!) > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:29 AM kechpaja <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Ékivrin! >> >> I have to disagree with you there. For me, trying to sing in a >> phonologically complex language sounds much easier than trying to >> produce natural-sounding speech — when I'm singing, I'm paying much >> closer attention to what sounds I'm articulating and when, the >> intonation is much more quantified (i.e. you have to hit specific >> pitches, rather than contours, at least most of the time), and (at least >> if this is a song I'm putting real effort into performing), I've >> probably spent a lot of time practicing that specific bit of text, and >> will likely know it by heart by the time I'm actually performing. >> >> (Not to detract from this song, of course — I'm just skeptical of the >> idea that singing is always going to be harder than speaking.) >> >> - kechpaja - >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 04:05:49PM +0100, Pete Bleackley wrote: >>> Indeed, I find Khangaþyagon and iljena difficult enough to pronounce >> when I make my "Tales from Other Worlds" videos - Khangaþyagon's phonology >> is mainly based on English, iljena's is simpler, both are my own languages, >> and I'm not trying to sing. Singing in a language as phonologically complex >> as Ithkuil when it's not even your own language is a major feat! >>>> ----Original message---- >>> >From : [log in to unmask] >>>> Date : 23/07/2018 - 14:07 (BST) >>>> To : [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject : Re: A new Kaduatán song is here - David J. Peterson once >> again sings in Ithkuil >>>> This is awesome, John, thanks for sharing! And thanks to David for his >>>> ability and willingness to actually sing in Ithkuil. >>>> >>>> I have shared it with a coworker whose son, by the way, finds Ithkuil >>>> amazing, wonderful, and fascinating. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/22/2018 10:55 AM, John Q wrote: >>>>> The Wayfarers have done it again. The fifth Kaduatán song is now >> available on YouTube. David J. Peterson once again joins me in a prog-rock >> extravaganza sung in Ithkuil. >>>>> This one's rather different, both visually and musically. For those >> of you who read my August 2015 Fiat Lingua article on writing the lyrics >> for these songs, this is the one whose lyrics were written directly in >> Ithkuil (i.e., not translated from an English-language source). The weird, >> off-kilter, and eventually sinister tone of the music follows the >> increasingly dark progression of the lyrics. >>>>> The song is called Ôrödyagzou ("Synaesthesia"). >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuYmkZ-Aomo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For those who'd like to sing along (ha!), here's the Ithkuil lyrics >> with translation: >>>>> http://www.ithkuil.net/Synaesthesia_lyrics_translation.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Hope your enjoy! (And this song's the last one for probably a long >> while.) >>>>> --John Q.