Sounds to me like this sound is to [l] what [ɕ] is to [ʃ]. I don't know what diacritics you'd have to use to build that up, though - is there a 'laminal' diacritic? On 2019/02/10 14:18, Tony Harris wrote: > On 19-02-10 14:18, [log in to unmask] wrote: >> Ékivrin! >> >> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:07:50PM -0500, Tony Harris wrote: >>> The sound I romanize as "lr" is made my placing the antero-dorsal part >>> of the tongue against the post-alveolar area and producing a voiced >>> lateral approximant. In layman's terms, an L made with the middle of >>> the tongue just behind the alveolar ridge. The tip of the tongue >>> almost >>> invariably ends up behind the bottom teeth when I do this, but I've >>> determined that is largely immaterial to the production of the sound. >>> >> I don't think I count as an IPA expert, so I'll defer to anyone who >> feels a lot surer of their answer than I do, but that sounds like >> some sort of laminal retroflex lateral approximant, which you could >> probably represent with /ɭ/ if you don't have another retroflex lateral. >> Assuming you have a regular /l/, how do you pronounce that? > The regular /l/ is just /l/, although Alurhsa does also have /ʟ/, /ɬ/, > and /dˡ/. It doesn't have /ɭ/ but that one shows in the chart as a > retroflex lateral approximant, and Alurhsa "lr" is definitely not > retroflex, it's antero-dorsal. The tip of the tongue just ends up > tucked down near the bottom teeth (sort of "lower dental"?) but the > sound itself is produced with the middle of the top surface of the > tongue touching just behind the alveolar ridge.