On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 04:14, And Rosta <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > On Tue, 21 May 2019, 06:45 Logan Kearsley, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I have come up with a sketch of the core of a grammar with a two-way > > lexical distinction that pretty clearly ends up preserving verbs, but > > replaces lexical nouns entirely with adjectives. > > > > To be more precise, one lexical category in this lang is a set of intransitive > > roots with non-agentive arguments, whose base form is attributive, but > > which can be inflected to become nominal or predicative. > > > > The second major open class is basically verblike, and includes transitives, > > intransitives with agentive subjects, and ditransitives. Derivational > > operators can turn transitives into adjectives (hence nouns) referring to > > the direct object (from which a passive construction can be derived), but > > using an intransitive verb in an attributive capacity requires a relative > > clause, as does referring to the subject of a transitive verb in an > > attributive capacity. > > > > Would 'mother' and 'nose' be treated as nonagentive intransitives or as > transitives? The logic of the scheme would say Transitives. That depends on which semantic features you consider more central to the logic. I have experimented with treating kinship terms specifically as stative transitives, inspired by Oneida, but doing so in this case would cause too many problems, I think. In the absence of an agentive argument, I think it makes more sense to lexicalize each half of those kinds of binary relations as a separate intransitive root (as is typical in most human languages). There certainly is, however, room to expand the scheme with a third basic lexical class just for inalienably-possessed things, though! That could be interesting. > I have betimes mentally doodled an artlingual scheme similar to yours, > except that the dichotomy is based not on agentivity (plus transitivity) > but eventivity (plus transitivity); the stative intransitives get singled > out for special nounlike treatment. > > --And.