Comment... Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Danny Wier: [...] > > > I'm kinda working on a universal Latin > > > script, just for the purpose of ease in learning and not to replace = traditional > > > scripts. This is a phonemic script; I don't like to use pure IPA ex= cept to > > > represent exact sounds. I assign the basic 26 nondiacritical letter= s to the > > > most common sounds and use as few diacritics as possible as sparsely= as > > > possible. That's another story though. (This alphabet I am also us= ing to > > > transcribe Tech, one of my five conlangs, which has somewhere betwee= n three > > > hundred and one thousand consonant and vowel phonemes -- or at least= sounds. > Let me edit myself there and say that what I meant by "between three hun= dred > and one thousand phonemes", that all depends on where you draw the line = to > demark "phonemic status". If one only considers primary articulation (l= abial > stop, dental nasal, velar fricative, palatal continuant, etc.) and not > secondary articulations (palatized dental stop, velarized alveolar frica= tive, > laterally-released dental stop, etc.), obviously a lower number would be= more > correct. I however am maintaining a higher and seemingly incredible num= ber > because of secondary articulations. I'm saying this since a few members= of > both lists was understandably curious about my claim of inventing a lang= uage > with a thousand sounds (and even giving most of them phonemic status), a= nd I am > making efforts to simplify the phonology to a more reasonable number say= ... > five hundred ;-) i left out "o" because americans would have made it into "a"... ;) try the word STOP and think about it. french "r", american or scottish? (the silent one is a no-no) "e" or "=E4"? there's plenty of room for variation... there should be. > > > had to borrow a few letters from Greek and use some unusual Latin le= tters for > > > this.) > > I cut the number down to 16+4 in bastard, transscribed as > > b d f g h k l m n p r s t v x y a e i u > > and used x as sh (instead of ks). > > That felt enough for a simple language. > I've been debating on whether or not to assign "x" to either /S/ or /x/ = myself; > I decided on "x" for /x/ and "s" caron for /S/ (caron marks all postalve= olar > fricatives and affricates) for Tech transcribed into Latin characters. i needed a single symbol for the sound and x was already covered by k and s... > Just for curiosity, will the letters "c", "j", "o", "q", and "z" be used= for > anything, like foreign words? Not in bastard, no. Why? BTW, z came closest to be included, but i already had s and x... > > Bastard is used without punctuation, and consonants double as > > numerals 0 to F. The structure of the language allowed that and there > > are some hidden benefits. > A hexadecimal numeric system! I could be wrong, but didn't the Egyptian= s use a > sort-of binary (or maybe base-2-to-the-power-of-anything) system for fra= ctions > especially? Quite frankly, i don't know... But we use binary and hexadecimal more today, because of computers. Bastard can be used with any number base between 2 and 16, with the same part-of-number markers, i might add... [...] > Well, look at me, an East Texas hillbilly with little college much less = a > linguistic degree, and I'm here! ...i'm still here too. pasi.