On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:15:21 +0100, Joshua Shinavier = <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Hello fellow language-makers > >> So, does anyone have a preference / suggestion for which i should use? >> How do you represent foreign words/names in your conlangs? > > >This ties in with something I was thinking of asking about naming = foreign >languages/countries in a conlang; what I usually do is to simply = approximate >the name using my conlang's phonetics, e.g. England --> "Ingland", >France --> "Frans", Austria --> "=D6styrrayx", whereby I always try to = use the >*native* word as my model -- the problem being that I only know so many >languages even superficially, the rest I can't name unless I want to use >second-hand words, like English/German "Indonesian/Indonesisch" --> >"Indon=EBz=EFav=EBn", or "Indon=EBj=EFav=EBn", etc. I once tried to = systematically >name the major languages of the world by following Internet language = links >and determining the native pronunciation of each language, but I spent a= matter >of several hours on the project and had only gotten as far as Albanian, = without >even all the languages before that properly named, due to scanty = material. >I was wondering if anyone else has had similar problems and whether = conlangers >would be interested in creating a list of as many languages/place names = as >the collective lot of us know in their native pronunciations, to put on = the >Internet somewhere as a permanent conlangers' resource (e.g. as part of = the >Conlang FAQ). That sounds like a great idea! Unfortunately my time at the moment is = VERY limited. Still, I prefer borrowing the native names of languages and = place names if I can find them (and figure out how to pronounce them = correctly). But it's easy to make mistakes, and some languages have more than one native name (Zhongwen? Hanyu? Putonghua?). When I get some time (probably no earlier than Thanksgiving), I'll see what names I can dig up from my notes and post them here if someone hasn't already done so by them.