Tom Wier scripsit: > Just curious: are there any remnants of "Dutchness" in New York City > at all? I read that even in the early 1800s there were enough people speaking > it that the city records were still kept in both English and Dutch. And, > I think President Martin Van Buren's native language was (New Yorker) > Dutch. Anything left of that? Well, the Middle Collegiate Church is a few blocks from my house; it is one of the four surviving Dutch Reformed churches in Manhattan, though services are exclusively in English (the congregation is perhaps 75% persons of color). The minister, though plainly born here, has the Dutch surname of Dragt /draxt/, and he once asked me the meaning of "opstanding" (= "resurrection"; I had to look it up). But otherwise I'd say no. -- John Cowan [log in to unmask] e'osai ko sarji la lojban.