At 9:04 am +0200 17/9/99, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote: ....... > >Well, the phenomenon causing the hypercorrection does have to do with >cases, or rather the lack of them, according to what I read: In the >non-prestige sociolects, there is no grammatical case at all, just a >rule that a single personal pronoun as subject just before the finite >verb takes a special form: 'I run' but 'Me and Bob run' (and 'Bob sees >me'). But this some form of case differentiation; in the first we have a singular subject; in the second the subject is plural. 'I' happens to be nominative _singular_ so we don't use 'I' when it forms part of a compound plural subject. And don't forget that all the personal pronouns, except 'you', have two forms (besides possessives). There is case; it just works differently from both Classical Latin & from what the prescriptivists think English should have. >And that is why the prescriptivists find their rule applied more >widely than they wish: Not because their victims are pretentious, But they are - me & Charlie meets them most days :) Ray.